Tech investors argue crypto will change the world — even if we never start spending it. #CriptoNews

Five years ago, tech investor Ben Horowitz of Andreessen Horowitz bet our own Felix Salmon that 10% of Americans would be using Bitcoin to pay for something by now. The bet involved a 100-year-old bottle of wine. Ben lost, of course, but he’s ready to double down with a new digital wager! He and partner Chris Dixon discuss the past and present of crypto, blockchain, and AI.

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