in today’s CashNews.co we are going to contrast the decision to start a career in Finance and to start one in management consulting i would say this represents
a very common kind of decision point that a lot of ambitious business students have to make including myself i think both of these career paths are excellent and there’s a reason why so many people compete to get into color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance and to get into consulting they’re both high paying career paths where most of the employers are well respected global firms additionally you have a lot of exit options when you go into style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance
about careers in Finance and in consulting in none;">Finance most of the time you are either advising on transactions or you’re investing in companies this represents the sell side and the buy side Investment Banking for example that’s you giving advice on these large complex financial transactions on
the sell side Equity research would also fall into this category and buy side would be things like private Equity and Hedge Funds i think generally speaking you tend to make more money in style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance
amounts of Capital then you just have the opportunity to generate even more returns while consultants earn fees which is based on projects and projects have a more kind of labor intensive orientation to them now Investment Banking of course is also like this where
you get paid fees based off of deals or projects that you do however in banking it’s still quite common to earn a percentage of the total transaction value which aligns the economic incentives between the clients and the bank and i’m gonna do a gross simplification here but i would say
that Finance tends to attract very intense and highly motivated people that tend to have a strong affinity for numbers or the Stock Market i would say that
most people that end up in Finance already have had a laser focus on the industry for quite a while and they followed it for a number of years it’s harder to like
stumble into Finance or banking as opposed to consulting where you can just be a very smart person and kind of recruit for it last minute in consulting you’ll be hired
by companies for a wide variety of projects this could be something like restructuring in which you have to reorganize a company something like market research very common for private Equity firms to hire consultants and they’ll work together to understand an industry better
integrations between companies are also common implementing new project or infrastructure into a company is common there truly is a wide range of projects and i think that’s why consulting is so attractive as an initial career as a junior consultant i think you’ll be exposed to probably
more Industries than in Finance and you’ll also be
exposed to a wider range of projects and tasks i do think there’s a lot of overlap between say banking and consulting work at its fundamental level a lot of it is dealing with excel building models whether it’s financial or market models you’ll also spend a lot of time building
presentations in powerpoint and working closely with a vp or an md on your team one of the main characteristics of consulting is that there’s weekly traveling in covetous side this means that you’re generally spending between monday and thursday on the client site that means you have to
travel either sunday night or monday morning and you’re dedicating a lot of your time pretty much the majority of your life into being in a different city on the plus side this means you can travel the world you can go to a bunch of different cities that other people would not ordinarily go
to and on the con side you know there’s quite a bit of travel it can be exhausting over time and i would say from my experience in business travel you don’t always get to appreciate and understand a city if you’re just there kind of working but some people do really like this
aspect of their job and really enjoy traveling and the benefits that come with it for my observation it seems a lot of generalists are attracted to consultants you also tend to get a lot of engineers and people who don’t have a strict business background because a lot of the times you just
need a very capable problem solver and i would say there’s less of kind of an initial technical understanding you need to know compared to Finance now if you were to
compare banking consulting head-to-head in terms of starting pay ib i think you’re going to make more in your first year if you’re at a top firm i think you’re making between 125 160 000 while in consulting i think the number is closer to 80 to 110 you’re still making quite
a bit in consulting but it’s not quite as much as in banking in terms of hours i would personally say that in banking over the course of two years you’re probably working between 65 and 85 hours per week i do think this varies depending on your deal and kind of the culture at your firm
but i would say that most people work between this band for consulting i think the range is a lot closer to 45 to 65 hours i think it can still also be pretty bad and extreme if you’re on a short sprint things like a private Equity due diligence are notoriously bad but i
think most people’s hours are going to be within this range and it might not seem like a lot but i do think that that difference between 45 and 55 or 65 is enormous every incremental hour after 50 or 60 hours hurts kind of on an exponential level because it starts cutting directly into your
sleep and any kind of semblance of leisure time so if you’re someone with diverse interests or you want to spend a lot of your time on another project or exploring other skills i would say consulting is probably going to give you more time at the beginning of your career this of course is
excluding travel there is a trade-off if you’re kind of out of the city you want to be between monday and thursday you might not have the same kind of extracurricular options so let’s double click on how that salary grows over time now the typical path and href="https://cashnews.co/finance" style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance
graph right here so in banking you might start making 145 then 160 but when you leave to private Equity when you leave to a hedge fund you could easily be making 275 300 000 just three years at a school and right now i would say the street compensation at a top fund four years out
of school is about 325 to 350 000 now consulting is also quite a lot i think initially you’re making between 95 and maybe 115 000 in your first two years and by your fourth year i think you’re making around the 200 000 range so there is still a large upward trajectory by that fourth
year after you’ve kind of got a promotion you will be making a lot more money and making 200 thousand dollars four years out of school is also remarkable so next i want to talk about optionality and banking i think is very good at leaving its doors open but it’s hard to argue that
it’s better than consulting in banking all your options are still primarily going to be Finance focused it’s no surprise because the work you’re doing is so
specialized and you’re very deep in one segment of the economy i think most people probably like two-thirds of people end up in some kind of buy-side role that would typically be private Equity Hedge Funds or venture Capital i think a lot of
people in banking will end up getting their mba kind of as a pit stop so they can ultimately go back into a buy side role you also have people going into corporate but that tends to be corp dev roles meaning doing corporate color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance at a company and there are people who switch into tech but from my observation that tends to be more in Finance
roles it’s definitely possible to go to a tech firm in a strategy role but i do think most people will look at you as the person who knows Finance for consultants i
think the world is kind of your oyster i think a lot of people and in my perception the most popular option is that people will get their mbas a lot of consultants will also end up in corporate roles and i’ve seen it span a very wide range of functions you could be a chief of staff you could
do directly operations or strategy i think if you want to go corporate you’re much less limited coming from a consulting background in terms of the kind of companies i don’t think you can easily distill it i’ve definitely seen people go to startups as well as to really establish
fortune 500 companies i’ve seen lots of consultants also take product manager roles at tech firms which is a very popular and lucrative option as well the more money oriented consultants will often end up in #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance and lots of private Equity firms will directly hire at a consulting and lots of consultants will also end up in entrepreneurship and i’ve kind of just listed almost every career option that exists to a business student
which i think shows you how versatile consulting is you also have lots of people who stay in consulting the only people i know who are at their original jobs my year in school which means like six years out of school are at their original consulting firm pretty much everyone else i know in
Finance or in marketing or Accounting they’ve already hopped around a couple of times so clearly these consulting firms are doing something right there
is one more insight i want to share with you and that’s this idea of expected value when i did the exercise of trying to determine the consulting target schools i noticed that some schools are significantly better at color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance or consulting recruiting and if you’re a student in university this should be of a high concern to you for example my alma mater iv i think is much better at placing at the style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance
somewhere like nyu or to boston college you’re probably gonna have a lot better luck just gunning for Finance now one feature of investment banks is that they give lots
more internships as opposed to consulting firms a lot of these consulting firms won’t hire as many summer interns i think they might hire maybe half of what they expect to get for their full-time class but the internship program is very important for investment banks and i think one takeaway
from this is that if you really just want a quote unquote good job at a school there is merit to just going for an Investment Banking internship for the summer and then deciding afterwards what you really want to do so here’s my rough recommendation and i would say if
you’re still indecisive don’t expect yourself to have necessarily the perfect answer lots of people don’t get it right for several years and it’s okay if you don’t know immediately out of school so i would say you should go into href="https://cashnews.co/finance" style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance href="https://cashnews.co/finance" style="font-weight: bold; color: #1a73e8; text-decoration: none;">Finance
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as possible and one very tangible piece of advice i think you should do i think you should try to speak to three people in both Industries a varying seniority and see who you relate to
better see whose values you actually resonate with see who you have a more engaging and interesting conversation with i think that’s the best way to make life decisions in general you should try to find people who are potential role models whose values are similar to yours so this CashNews.co
if you’re interested in learning about the technical skills you need for Finance you should check out a course that we just launched on our website it teaches you all
the Valuation you need to know for Investment Banking interviews as well as how to build discounted Cash Flow and financial model and i’ll see you in the next one i
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Very interesting topic. I spent 5 years at McKinsey while my husband was at Goldman in New York 😆 This was often our weekend dinner conversation/ debate!
Great video mate!
What about Asset Management of wealth Management? Includes a Good Pay with a netter Work Life Balance
It’s really 55-70 working hours in consultanting
Which MBA program is better for consulting, especially MBB placement, UCLA Anderson or cornell Johnson?
Enlightening!
The top ranges for IB and consulting comp is outdated. Top pay in IB (EBs like Evercore, Centerview, etc.) is roughly ~$180-$200k and top pay in consulting (MBB) is ~$130k with the most recent round of raises last month.
Great vídeo,man, keep it up!!!
which path is superior if you want to start a business later down the line?
Hi, I just graduated in an investment degree last year and I genuinely don't know what career path to pursue in this industry. I enjoy the stock market and learning about the mechanics and technicalities of how it works, but I enjoy interacting with people. I don't know what career path I can pursue that incorporates some degree of both 😢
Which courses to do to get into consulting
that's what I was looking for , thank you so much
This channel provides the best content in this space, the quality and simplicity in delivery is unmatched .
Awesome video. I’m a freshman at Boston College so I appreciate the mention. Definitely have always been leaning towards IB but once I got here I began looking into consulting as I enjoyed the versatility of it and it seemed slightly more or a laid back recruiting process than finance. Still very interested in finance though, especially after watching this.
Very interesting video, How easy is it to move from consulting to private equity?
Hey Matt I love all your videos. Can you make a video about what a typical career looks like as a trader? Thanks!
What's the salary trajectory if you stay in IB?
consulting is a scam
so like when PE firms hire out of consulting do they hire consultants for strategy and more operations based roles rather than traditional finance roles?
Great video! My personal experience working for 5 years at an MBB firm would suggest increasing the working hours range by 10h or so, but otherwise this was spot on!
Good info.
Hey mat do you have an idea which finance job would be suitable for an introvert where u don’t have to much deal with people 🙈
What would you say would be a good role to target for a relaxed atmosphere, 40-45 hrs a week, finance position? If one such exists 😀. I’ve got two kids and after my MBA I’m either doing my own businesses for maximum flexibility, or might pursue something in finance. What about wealth management or something similar.
What’s a typical major for management consulting and do you have to be good at math ?
Hello, can you please make a video on venture capital please?
Regarding salaries, I am aware that you speak in general terms, however I find that MBB (three big consulting firms) pay their MBA associates easily over 200k (full compensation) right out of graduate school. From your experience do you know if this correlates to banks such as JPM and GS?
This is why the world is such a mess because almost all young kids now are going into business education , I guess Elon Musk said something like that ; Way too much Intelligent people are going into business education . As in the past intelligent people are going into sciences because they know it will benefit not only the Planet but all the people. In business there are too much negative externalities that they always tend to ignore , they are trained to push it regardless of negative externalities in the name of Profit.
My suggestion Implement “ The Resource Based Economy “ by Jacque Fresco
Where does Asset Management fit into to the finance side
Key note, his salary range for consulting is for MBB or at least T2 strategics like Oliver Wyman , EY Parthenon, Monitor Deloitte, PWC Strategy& etc. (and no, normal big 4 consulting isn't as much as this)
Other consulting firms lower than these in tier standing will pay about another 30% less.. so generally speaking consulting pays maybe 50% to 60% of the finance path (and maybe 60% of the work hours roughly. Altho time:dollar ratio I'd say still favors finance a lot) Also his projections for year 4 salary is pretty aggressive even for MBB (well actually I guess in USA it's probably norm?) You'd have to be pretty much a super star. Then again I'm not sure if his finance projection is also super star level, therefore proportionally matching and telling the same story
But that year 4 salary is more like year 6-8 for most folks in consulting
Very interesting. I will be starting my career with Consulting soon. Thank you for this video. Gives a lot of information.
This is hands down the best video that I have seen on this topic. Good job!
great video matt, i was wondering if you could do videos on different divisions in an IB like asset management, equity research, corp banking, leveraged finance etc..)
Interested in your thoughts on corp dev/strategic finance/biz ops roles at tech cos as an exit from banking
Hi, could you make a video about Finance v Consultants : Best for freelance path after X years of experience? Would be nice for the more entrepreneurial minded.
This is my future life in one video hahaha
Solid quality #content as always; graduated already and recruiting for HFs but this is still interesting to me somehow. Keep it up!
As someone who who will go to Undergrad Wharton this upcoming fall and trying to decide between these two paths, this video was very useful! Thank you
Hi Matt,
Thank you for the amazing quality and consistency of your videos! As a rising sophomore, I really appreciate every bit of information people post out there
I was wondering if you could make a video about breaking into IB from a non-target school. I am an international student majoring in Quantitative Economics at a decent LAC that has some alumni working in elite boutiques or bulge brackets, but it's no NYU or Boston College ofc…
Maybe there is some piece of advice you can give to people from non-targets? How many of those have you met working at Evercore?
Regardless, keep up the good work Matt! <3 <3 <3
Love these videos!
Hey Matt, I'm thinking about recruiting for consulting, SWE, and IB. I'm going to college next year. Will I be stretched thin if I aim for those 3? Should I only choose 2 to recruit for?
Also, I'd be interested in a video about recruiting timelines. Thanks
Thank you for this amazingly prepared video. I appreciate it. I am now considering consulting for my career path.