it’s no surprise that transitioning into retirement is extremely difficult in today’s CashNews.co I’m going to illustrate one of the Hidden ways retirees struggle as a result of something that I call the Savings Paradox I’m a certified financial
planner and the owner of an independent Financial Planning firm and every year I spend hundreds of hours helping my clients navigate the difficulties of retirement planning to achieve happy stress-free retirements the reality of retirement can be very very different from what many
expect part of this is a result the fact that the routines and behaviors that support us during our working life can actually work against us once we enter retirement the largest issue of all is tackling the shift from saving psychology to spending psychology So today we’re going to break
down the Savings Paradox which I like to call the permission to spend problem and discuss what you can do about it the saving Paradox or permission to spend problem is a psychological state of mind that keeps well-prepared retirees from spending their wealth in retirement
well-meaning and well prepared retirees spend their entire life delaying gratification and stalking away money in order to prepare for retirement and then suddenly retirement arrives at your doorstep and you and Society give yourselves every reason that you should not or could not spend your wealth
now the best illustration of this problem comes from a Michael kitus article entitled why most retirees will never draw down their retirement Portfolio we’re going to review this study for a second time today it was in another recent CashNews.co of mine but buried pretty de
deep in the CashNews.co and after reviewing it I’m going to teach you how to identify if you are suffering from this problem as well as what you can do to solve it the article makes several key points the first key point is affluent retirees relying on their Portfolios in
retirement are failing to spend even their annual Income in their retirement years and the more affluent the worse this trend gets now in this study affluent is is defined as a retire with at least $333,000 in total wealth including housing the second key point from the study
2third of retirees using a 4% initial withdrawal rate end a 30-year retirement with more than double their starting principle let me repeat that if you start with the 4% withdrawal rate you end 2third of the time you end with more than double your starting principle now even more shocking is that
you are more likely end to end up with five times your initial principle than you are to even dip into principle if you use a 4% withdraw rate just think about that you’re more likely to 5x your wealth than you are to even touch your original starting dollar amount if you use a 4% withdrawal
rate the third key point from the study even in the unlikeliest of cases where a retiree does end up spending down their wealth it doesn’t typically occur until a retiree is in their late 80s which is well past the average life expectancy of most Americans the fourth key point from the study
limiting spending in early retirement does have a prophylactic or defensive effect the issue with this is that many retirees think they will make up that spending later in retirement but it’s even harder to spend one’s wealth and later retirement due to the limitations of aging and so
most retirees never recoup that quote unquote deferral kitus goes on to state that as a result of this permission to spend problem which he calls the consumption Gap from the beginning of 2000 to the end of 2008 a very challenging time of mediocre returns for retirement Portfolios
when in theory account balances would have dipped with ongoing withdrawals the average Financial Assets of the median retirees still continued to increase in retirement to illustrate these points kitus reviews two scenarios which I’m going to show on the screen and quote
directly from his article so scenario one for instance imagine a retiree who has a $1 million balanced Portfolio and wants to plan for a 30-year retirement Inflation averages 3% and the average returns of the balanced Portfolio are 8% over the
30-year period now to make the money last for the entire time Horizon the retiree would start out by spending $61,000 in year one of retirement so that’s a 6.1% withdrawal rate and then adjust each subsequent year for Inflation spending down the retirement account balance by
the end of the 30th year as the chart on the screen reveals though projected spending that plans to spend down the Assets by the end of a 30-year retirement still would spend less than the growth in the retirement account for the first 10 years and wouldn’t actually dip into
the principle until the 17th year out of 30 that’s assuming modest 3% Inflation and long-term returns of 8% which is the approximate average for the past 100 years now let’s look at a second scenario in scenario 2 we take a more conservative approach and a gloomier
Outlook and instead projected a balanced Portfolio to grow at only 7% as you can see here on the screen Inflation at 4% which would be high and so the spending in year one initially starts at $49,000 which is 4.9% initial withdrawal rate we have the same million
doll Portfolio invested in a balanced Portfolio the Portfolio value would peak in year 11 and you wouldn’t dip into principle until year 18 now the reason this is important is in the context of this more conservative scenario a 65-year-old
retiree’s life expectancy is only to their mid 880s which means that a significant number of retirees who use this as their plan spending strategy will actually pass away before they ever materially dip into retirement principle at all so clearly the challenge in retirement is balancing early
retirement spending without adding undue risk to the back portion of retirement now to be clear it is perfectly okay to have a goal of spending less and early retirement in order to have more stability at the end of retirement or so that you can intentionally leave a legacy to airs ultimately the
study that underlies the kitus article the study is titled spending in retirement determining the consumption Gap makes some additional interesting points the first feelings of inadequate preparation May shift retirees mindsets from decumulation to preservation meaning that feelings of fear may
keep someone from spending their Assets and focusing too much attention on preserving their Assets the study found that rather than depending on long-term Financial Planning retirees are myopic and overly rely on their intuition or their gut when
adjusting consumption and Investment Strategies and this situational approach to post-retirement consumption can increase retirees vulnerability to loss aversion you know translated into English that just means that going based on one’s gut or intuition actually leads to
lower levels of confidence and increased anxiety in retirement now the study continues when loss aversion is present or fear of loss is present retirees May frame spending down their Portfolio as a risky proposition and view the conversion of funds from Financial
Assets to fund current spending as a loss meaning they think of spending out of their retirement Savings as a loss rather than as an activity that was intentionally saved for now retirees plagued with this fear of loss may spend less as a defense mechanism to
protect against making a perceived Financial mistake so ultimately what I believe is underlying all of this is the fact that Brokerage companies mutual funds index funds and financial advisers all over the country know and understand that retirees behaviors are influenced by these
fears and therefore because these Brokerage companies mutual funds index funds and financial advisers have a financial incentive to convince retirees that if they spend their money they will be at risk of running out they promote the following types of material the 4% rule for
instance or even that Social Security at 70 delaying Social Security is always the best strategy or that Taxes are always bad when in fact Taxes are simply the cost of extracting wealth and if planned appropriately for they’re just simply another expense that
can be planned for for or even something like don’t retire before 65 because health Insurance before Medicare is too expensive and prohibitive or live on pennies so that you can obtain Health Care subsidies even if your retirement Portfolio could both afford
to pay you well and pay for Private health Insurance Prem Medicare now some of those activities May in fact be valuable and even the right thing to do in a particular scenario they’re just not universally right and the only Universal purpose those things serve is to benefit
Financial actors who annuitize fees while your Assets grow at your expense and the retirement consumption Gap study finally concludes with after retirement the reward of efficient market returns from effective management of Market risk that was dominant during accumulation meaning
the reward of searching for higher market returns while you’re Savings while you’re in the saving phase I’m sorry may be less important than stable reliable Income from effective management of risks related to uncertain lifespan and medical costs
and these actions may increase the confidence of a client and lead to spending patterns more consistent with the goals that motivated your Savings behaviors remember you saved in order to have funds for funding your retirement and if we save and then don’t spend it we
actually aren’t acting consistently with our initial goals now retirement Income conversations may need to move away from conversations around sustainable withdrawal rates and towards strategies that maximize spending for a given level of financial Assets
while addressing concerns about uncertainties a shift of this nature would ensure that clients receive the highest possible satisfaction from their accumulated wealth and that comes again from the consumption Gap study now ultimately you can see that the permission to spend problem is in fact real
retirees aren’t spending down their Assets and it’s not because they can’t it’s because they are afraid to so through my work I found that most retirees don’t clearly know what they can spend and therefore never consider what they might spend their
wealth on if they knew that they could spend more and therefore they never evaluate how much extra satisfaction they might get from those extra activities ities because they never allowed themselves to consider because they couldn’t imagine World in which they could actually fund those
activities let me give you an example imagine you live on the west coast and your kids and grandkids live on the east coast all your life while you have been saving you can only afford to go visit one time per year because that’s what fit within your budget so when you retire you assume that
you can only go one time per year you actually just don’t know any different but what if you found out through Good Financial Planning that your retirement Assets could support five visits per year and that it wouldn’t hinder your retirement in any way
would you then consider going more often now I don’t know the answer to that and I’m not trying to supply anyone to answer to that that’s simply a personal choice but my belief is wouldn’t you rather know that you have the option and aren’t putting your retirement at
risk as a result of that option rather than simply not knowing at all and so I’ll conclude this CashNews.co by making the same case I do at the end of all my CashNews.cos start retirement planning at least 5 years before retiring in that way you can learn the true possibilities and tolerances
of your Savings and saving behaviors and therefore you can craft the truly intentional retirement Strat strategy that will allow you to live the best life possible for your specific unique desires and if that includes spending very little while alive in order to leave a huge Legacy
for your kids or an endowment for a university you care about or whatever by all means go ahead and do so my hope for you is simply that you will do it out of intentionality rather than out of fear and with that said if you’d like to learn more about how we support our clients living their
best life in retirement you can visit our website at www.the peak.com and thank you as always for your time and attention and I’ll see you in the next CashNews.co
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My main concern is having enough savings to cover unexpected health or long term care costs. Any that doesn't get spent I'm happy to pass on to my children.
This is a great video. The delivery reminds me of when I was in business school. Thanks!
Most people dont have a saving problem, they have a debt problem.
I wonder if Warren Buffett is watching this. He really needs to hear it. Charlie Munger too, except he died too soon. 😊
The secret is to put money away every paycheck. He says 15% but I think you check out the budget for some extra. Put it into an SP index fund. Do not touch it. Just let it grow. If you are spending 10 hours a week worrying about it now,use that time for a hustle and tuck that away. Trying to work the market is a mugs game. It can be done by a few people but you don’t d sound like one. 10 years from now your index fund in your Roth IRA will be doing great. Or 401k.
Retirement homes will take care of any underspending or excess principal – at least over here.
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I have the same problem. It helped for me to have and fund two accounts, one for essential spending and one for discretionary. This gave me the peace of mind I would always have enough to pay my bills and the permission to enjoy life too.
I am regretting not investing in stocks ever since but still grateful i kept money in the money market. With about $200k maturing soon, i plan investing in the stock market. What stocks should I look into as a newbie to safely grow my money
Yes, I have a reasonable amount in savings already, above the threshold you put out.
Affluent means frugal. I have invested in pre IPO companies to permit me to spend without worrying.
My original retirement plan was to retire at 62, work part-time, and save money. However, high prices for everything have severely affected my plan. I'm concerned if people who went through the 2008 financial crisis had an easier time than I am having now. The stock market is worrying me as my income has decreased, and I fear I won't have enough savings for retirement since I can't contribute as much as before.
My friends’s grandpa saved a ton of money because he thought he was going to die at 97. Turns out he died at 67 and saved too much…
I think your basic retirement expenses should not exceed 4% of your portfolio, however, I am spending 5-6% of my portfolio in my early retirement years because of travel and other go-go year activities. After seeing my brother and brother in law both hit with debilitating illnesses that stopped them from future travel, I decided life is short and travel while you can.
My portfolio is 25% in cash earning near 4% (for now though not likely to last) and the rest is in large cap mutual funds such as SP500. If you look at 30 year historical returns on this 25%/75% portfolio they are greater than 9%. I am living the retirement dream without a financial concern for as long as my health lasts.
I am enlightened sir. Thank you.
I wish I had this problem. I have 23 cents in my savings.
Why is the intention to spend everything you saved? The reason so many people stay poor is this exact mindset
It depends. The future may not be as…financially secure and productive as the past.
Healthcare costs in later years could blow this thought process up. Not to mention much higher inflation than 3%.
Great video, thanks for the good job.
Looking at historical data, it would be more informative if there was a comparison and/or distinction between long term (10+ year) and mid to short term (5 to 10 years historical data) as recent changes in the market are relevant for some decisions but takes time to affect a 100 years historical data mean or average
If you play video games, you win, you play more. I save, and have no legacy to pass those funds to, then are you only playing to see the numbers going up? I own two houses, live in one. Don't spend all my current retirement funds, and have high 6 figure investments. I love to see the numbers going up. Yes the $$ is there, but I don't need it. Life is funny in that way, all my wants are fulfilled. It's all just a game that we play. My saying when I retired was "the job is not a race, but I'm winning."
This perspective makes perfect sense if you know exactly when your retirement will "end" and how much "end" will cost. Since I don't, I'm going to have to over-plan.
Could you explain the calculation of 333000 ? How many times is that of annual expenditure or annual income?
yes. 30 years of developing our 'saving' muscle … and it becomes difficult to 'switch' to spending. I found this to be true. I started slowly – firstly, by doing the math and realising small things like – I can afford to fly business now, not economy. I also found it useful to 'compartmentalize' money for stuff like travel – so I have money earmarked JUST for travel. For example, invested in FANG (Facebook, Amazon. Netflix, Google) with funds earmarked only for travel … so now, a no-brainer to buy 'business travel' a couple of times a year … I recommend this idea for those so afflicted. Thanks for the video … this is the first video I have seen on this 'problem' – and I've talked to a few of my friends about it – and have remarked how little this is discussed. Good man.
Put every asset you have in revocable trust, then only use the dividend and interest from your asset.
Do not sell any stock you hold as you want to transfer all asset to your children.
Do not change your quality of Life upwards as that may endanger your liquid assets.
This is really difficult behavior to get out of after building millions in asset throughout your life.
I've just retired, age 55 with probably not enough cash according to what people think is needed. Spending the principle is not part of the plan. Trading the principle to replace my wages is the plan. This is working great and I expect my principle to increase. My plan is to continue that and to increase the principle so that trading to get wages is easier. I don't know how long I'll need the principle. It's not there to spend, it's there to be milked. I happen to be good at day trading, arising from being strong in statistics and time series analysis, but you don't have to be vary good if you've got more money. I'm great at spending but being allergic to spending the principle is just good planning.
You work for a 40yrs to have $1m in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10k in a bitcion coin for just fe months and now they are multimillionaires thanks to Charlotte Grace Miller
In the study affluent is defined as $333K in total wealth including housing? Wut? Then you have an example at $1MM. Why not have the scenario based on the $333K initial example?
The problem is not having a spending budget. My budget is $85K and I do whatever I want with that amount why should I spend more? Inflation goes up, markets go down, people get sick, and insurance does not pay for everything, a storm can make a tree fall on your house or car, it is not to have money you can spend if you must without spending more than you need.
I do not care if anything is left to my heirs but if there is something there, great. I do not change consumption beyond what makes me happy.
I cannot tell you how many times I have heard a retiree say they could not spend because the money is “for my kids and grandkids”. They worked and saved all their lives for their heirs.
You can make plans based on averages, but you have to live a specific outcome. If you're looking at 20 or 30 years in retirement, it is almost impossible to properly plan for healthcare outcomes. You can attempt to insure against various outcomes, but over that timeframe the entire system can change. I do think it is reasonable for someone to decide to live now and hope for the best – but I also don't think it is unreasonable for someone to be very careful now because they are worried about healthcare issues, because that worry is completely valid.
With retirement planning, most people don't have an offensive stock portfolio with 8% returns. It might happen that there is a -30% return within a year directing your retirement plans to the waste bin and yourself into poverty. On average, you will be happy to play break even on inflation, and this is an optimistic scenario. The larger portion of your portfolio will go into defensive investments like obligations or savings ( or real estate or certain metals). Only your assets above your minimum retirement needs go into stock. It might be that the average 100 year return is 8%, the shorter 5 to 10 year return is certainly not.
If traveling via airports is the only thing you have to do, then you need to cultivate a hobby.
Or you fly first class… or your kids will. YOUR CHOICE. 😉
Too much talk to say just a simple thing. It should have been a 1-minute video. These financial advisors are all talk and their formulas are more simplistic than a 3-line equation one can program in 10 minutes in Mathematica to plan one's future taking into account income, return, taxes, inflation, social security, etc. The whole world has been floating on layers and layers of bullshit. You don't need to know much about the stock market to start doing better than professional money managers, if you have the right mindset: keep some cash to invest when the markets have clearly bottomed (like in fall 2022), buy some good tech ETFs and hold, buy very high dividend stocks/ETFs with reasonable fundamentals and hold, never panic sell, never buy bonds just equities, etc. I wish I knew all that early on in life. My point is not that every person should know how to do that on his/her own. My point is that financial advising is a scam because it is usually of very low quality and does not serve people well.